Join us and ask yourself the question: Do I really need that? [–]aristicks 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (5 children), [–]kananjarrus[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (4 children). Inserted into the pack, it makes an excellent internal frame; the aluminum arrow shafts in the sides enhance this function. Here is my first look at the Helinox Chair Zero purchased from REI! I've borrowed an HCZ from a friend of mine and noticed that. Chair Zero is featherlight, ultra-compact, and definitely more comfortable than the ground – just hike into your campsite, pull your chair it out of your pack, pop it together, and sit. It isn't always a problem, but at the very least makes the chair sit lower, and at worst can get the chair stuck or cause you to lose the feet off the ends of the poles. And if the ground is wet you will be sitting on wet. The design of the REI Flexlite Air is much like that of the Helinox Chair One and the Zero. The Helinox Ground Chair (and now the Chair Zero) have been amazing for me. Actually it won't work on either surface. Weighing just over a pound, the Helinox Chair Zero features a remarkably low weight, incredible packability, and durable construction unmatched by its competition. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Helinox Protective Ground Sheet Accessory for Camp Chairs, Chair Zero at Amazon.com. Packed weights of Helinox Chair Two and Sunset Chair are respectively 2 lbs 10 oz and 3 lbs 4 oz. Free shipping on all orders over €199. But you won't find a chair both as comfortable and as light as the Chair Zero currently. In this article, I compiled everything you need to know about two of the finest high-back chairs in its line, Helinox Chair Two vs Sunset Chair. But if the ground is soft the legs will dig in deep and it's easy to lose balance when that happens. Sold out Ground Sheet Chair Zero €29,95. It also packs down really small so you can fit it in your pack easily. In contrast, Helinox Chair Two is lighter and packs down smaller. You also need adjustable poles, and if they are holding up your tent or tarp you can't use it. The Helinox Ground Chair (and now the Chair Zero) have been amazing for me. Another reason why Helinox Sunset Chair is the better option for taller fellows and Helinox Chair Two is the better option for shorter campers out there. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. I have both this chair and the HCZ. Chair Zero is featherlight, ultra-compact, and definitely more comfortable than the ground – just hike into your campsite, pull your chair it out of your pack, pop it together, and sit. And if you strip them down (smaller feet, no bag), their comparable in weight to the REI chairs. Joined Jul 4, 2018 Messages 32 Location MT. Some of the cheaper chairs cannot handle the same weight as the Helinox and/or sink into the ground. Both are high-back chairs, but compared to Helinox Chair Two, Helinox Sunset Chair’s back is taller and it’s 4″ higher from the ground. You feel like you can't adjust your weight at all when sitting on it. This advanced pole technology was developed for expedition-level backpacking tents and is trusted and relied on by the world’s most discerning adventurers. The Ground Chair is for anyone who wants to travel light but also values some comfort when exploring the wilderness by bike, foot, skis or boat. You realize how lightweight this chair is when you compare it with the Big Agnes Helinox Chair One which is 850 grams, or with the Big Agnes Helinox Ground Chair which is 615 grams. [–]psilokan 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Our lightest and most packable extra-roomy chair, it weighs just over three pounds, supports up to 320, and fits into a streamlined carry case. Shop Helinox for the world's lightest, strongest, most comfortable portable chairs, cots, tables & outdoor equipment. I used to use one like this before I got a zero (thanks wifey!) I'm 6'3" and like to drink in camp and the two legs I feel didn't give me enough stability. I felt that the seat was warmer on my back than the Chair One which has a mesh back and solid sides. The Chair Zero’s seat fabric looks like it’s predominantly dyneema x grid. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. Was hoping to be under $50 each so I can grab one for the GF as well. [–]ultrawiz 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). The price is unreal. 7oz. 32.9 oz. [–]Rocko9999 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). I got three Terralite chairs for my family. Like you are forced to be still. Still loved it. Ground sheet levels the load, providing a wide, stable base that helps prevent sinking or tipping on soft and uneven ground. Outdooreager.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. The Helinox Zero is visually identical to the Helinox One but it weighs about half as much (1.1 lbs vs 2 lbs on the One). Short of convincing them to do a lot more miles, anyone have any suggestions for a cheaper / ultralight camp chair (or stool)? Great review and exactly what I was looking for to understand the differences between chairs. BUT with the right surface and the right conditions it is lightweight and very comfortable. QuestionAnyone find a cheaper but comparable chair to the Helinox Chair Zero? A year with the Hightail Designs Flagship Shell. Whisky cup on the floor is easily in reach and great for stretching legs out from. Aug 8, 2020 #7 Where's Bruce? I've had people suggest tripod stools, trekking pole supported chairs, chair hammocks, etc. [–]aescling 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Planning on purchasing a Helinox chair. Big Agnes – Helinox – Chair One. Ultra-light, comfortable and designed specifically to stop you sinking into softer ground. After assembling the chair, storage bag has several options of use, you can connect the storage bag underneath the frame and use it as a pocket, or you can stuff the bag with a t-shirt and attach it to the top of the chair using the velcros panels and use the storage bag as a pillow. Still a decent buy. They also increase the stability in rugged grounds as well. Thread starter copperking81; Start date Jun 20, 2019; Jun 20, 2019 #1 C. copperking81 Junior Member. Enjoy sitting 11 inches off the ground, relaxing without having to balance or use your abs to enjoy a meal or the view, and it packs down no bigger than most water bottles - so there's no reason to leave it at home no matter the adventure. [–]JRidz 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). Ground Sheet Chair Zero. I crushed one of the legs due to my own gracefulness. Best Of The sub - View only the "best of" threads. Hi guys, I’m Kaan. As the title suggests, this Big Agnes Helinox Ground Chair review is about an incredibly lightweight and completely collapsible and portable chair, suitable for any outdoor activity, including backpacking, camping, hunting trips, sitting on the beach, excursions with a motorbike, and you name it. FWIW I only bring it for dayhikes. EVERY other chair in the same design as the Chair Zero (and there are many brands of that design) seem to weigh 32oz/900g. Home; Ultra Lightweight Chairs; Ground Chair. Sorry I don’t know the actual weight. Reactions: shooterrdy. Both Helinox Chair Two and Sunset Chair are made of the same type of material, and since Chair Two is shorter and more narrow, it weighs less and packs down smaller. Ended up going with the chair zero, hard to argue with shaving off a pound Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . Helinox offers an array of excellent camp chairs, including the Chair Zero, one of the more popular among lightweight backpacking enthusiasts.It is easy for us to understand why it is so highly regarded. Anything good / bad? Ground Chair. [–]AgentK-CoC 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children). The Helinox Chair Zero is an ultralight, 17 ounce backpacking chair that lifts you 11 inches off the ground. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The truest ultra-lightweight camping chair, coming in at 1.02 lbs. More comfortable than the zero. [–]bradymsu616 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (1 child). The killer feature are the second set of feet that don't sink in sand or mud. UL Tent with Large Porch / Rainy Day Space? There’s only one version! Nice. Got them on sale for $35 a piece. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Chair One Mini; Chair Zero; Chair One; Ground Chair; Chair One L; High-Back Chairs. Rendered by PID 21654 on r2-app-0455a2cc00fe93812 at 2020-12-27 20:48:22.255512+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: US. Was trying to find a slightly more comfortable option for trips where I hang around friends that spend more time in camp. Low to the ground, hard to get out of when high or drunk...lol. You can set up your tent later. The ground also needs to be fairly level. It is always in my car just in case I want a seat. Mostly my toddler likes to sit in it when we car camp. Trip report - 150 miles in the North Cascades. without the case. I have and recommend this Tillak Camp Chair which is basically another helinox one knockoff, however, it has the better seat design (no mesh; built just like the chair zero.) I got a heavier generic version of this on Amazon but the chair design is not my cup of tea. Add to Cart Ground Sheet Chair Zero $39.99. I originally bought the chair to take on “easy trips”, but it comes almost all the time. You have one? After some rigorous field testing of sitting around, we found the Chair Zero’s performance lived up to its reputation. Black It can be a bit tricky to sit in if the ground is very hard (rock) or very soft (sand). If you’re a “numbers person” Helinox Chair Two weighs %24 less and packs down %13 smaller than Helinox Sunset Chair. Helinox Ground Sheet Chair Zero | Free Shipping & 5 Year Warranty The main difference between Helinox Chair Two and Sunset Chair is their size. I have a Zero and a One. Seconded, I love this chair. However I had a great service experience with Big Agnes where I bought the chair. [–]aristicks 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (9 children), https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00Y2A6Z12/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1514917363&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=helinox+chair&dpPl=1&dpID=51WIxf7UYlL&ref=plSrch, [–]kananjarrus[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (6 children). [–]Morejazzpleasehttps://lighterpack.com/r/f376cs 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child), [–]kananjarrus[S] 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). Big Agnes outdid themselves with portability as the newer model, the Helinox Chair Zero, be… Combined with strategically placed high-strength polyester mesh panels, it creates a seat that’s breathable, packable, and lightweight. I've been using one, or similar (cost me £20, in UK). As with all Helinox Chairs … Lighter than the Helinox Chair One, but not the Zero. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. Combined with strategically placed high-strength polyester mesh panels, it creates a seat that’s breathable, packable, and lightweight. Both are very comfortable. It’s great to learn about the rocking feet and platform base, and good info that the bag fits on the Sunset as a pillow. Helinox is the only furniture brand to use DAC aluminum alloy poles. For most of 2017, I was sitting on a ThermaRestZ sit pad which also doubles as my pack support and foot insulation in my hammock. But sitting on the ground even with the insulated pad isn't nearly as comfortable as sitting in a chair. The Ground Chair is for anyone who wants to travel light but also values some comfort when exploring the wilderness by bike, foot, skis or boat. Otherwise I prefer a rock with a sit pad. Performance Fabric. Doubles as extra torso insulation underneath the sleeping mat. I've had people suggest tripod stools, trekking pole supported chairs, chair hammocks, etc. I have one. Great to hear that you enjoyed the article and thank you for the kind words! Senior Member . While closer to the ground, I didn’t notice any harder time getting in and out of the chair, even with bad knees. €29,95 Sold out. In summary, the big difference between the two chairs is their size. Weight is the main issue and I doubt it would qualify as ultralight for anyone here but it is certainly comfy and packs pretty small for the cost. For camp chairs, it comes down to weight, price, & comfort (pick two). [–]B52gunner 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children), Alite Mayfly Chair Black F14 One Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LCOXVSG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_J0etAbZMW6QW8, My wife bought me this one. Ground sheet levels the load, providing a wide, stable base that helps prevent sinking or tipping on soft and uneven ground. Fore and aft stability feels about the same to me, though in Helinox Zero my butt and center of gravity are at least one inch lower, it’s more stable. 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