The new tank also has improved communication systems and new navigation system. Take 2: The M1 Panther II. (page 11), which is at least partial a contradiction to what he wrote in M1 Abrams vs T-72 Ural (2009). I quote from the Wiki article on the Arjun: - Recent comments from Army sources indicate that the Russian T-90S will form the mainstay of its future force, despite that tank’s performance issues in hot weather. This is the highest percentage overrun for any DRDO project. An improved version of the tank, known as the Arjun Mk. As I don't know the difference between Kanchan and Chobham armor. your own Pins on Pinterest The army was extremely unhappy with the tank, citing 14 defects that included "deficient fire control system", "inaccuracy of its guns", "low speeds in tactical areas" and "inability to operate over 50 degrees Celsius". Those are data for armor angled, usually 60°. You can see on the cuts made on the new turret, the exact emplacement for Turms-T sight like it is done on Syria's TURMS-T equipped T-72's. Arjun Mk2 will be more expensive with higher import content than its predecessor By Prasun K. Sengupta For all intents and purposes, the Arjun Mk2 main battle tank (MBT) — currently under development since mid-2007, will be more expensive and have a higher imported content than its predecessor, the Arjun Mk1. Arjun Mk 1 is total failure and junk. 2, was developed by the DRDO incorporating about 70 changes (including an one-to-one copy of the Soviet Kontakt-5 ERA, because adding armor from 1985 to a 2014 upgrade of a 2004 main battle tank makes sense), but the Indian army rejected it due to the high weight (68 metric tons), poor performance and poor reliability. Dude this a knowledge bomb the sources alone are great. ._3Im6OD67aKo33nql4FpSp_{border:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetBorderColor);border-radius:5px 5px 4px 4px;overflow:visible;word-wrap:break-word;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);padding:12px}.lnK0-OzG7nLFydTWuXGcY{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;padding-bottom:4px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIcon)} The Abrams is a full-tracked, low-profile, land combat assault weapon possessing unmatched survivability, shoot-on-the-move lethality and a high degree of maneuverability. But the Arjun project isn’t dead and the latest variant, the Mark II, was tailored to suit the Army’s needs. Arjun Mk-2. It should replace the ageing Cold War era T-55 and T-72M tanks in service with the Indian Army. During Gulf War a Warrior MICV was hit by a HESH round fired by a Challenger 1 in a blue-on-blue accident, the applique armor (designed to stop the RPG-7) was enough to protect the Warrior against it. The Abrams Main Battle Tank closes with and destroys the enemy using mobility, firepower and shock effect. The Arjun doesn't use "a lot of German parts". - Subsequently in September 2008, the Indian Army signed a deal with Russia to import 347 T-90 tanks and license build a further 1000. By comparison: the M1 Abrams development was initiated in 1971, stayed within budget and entered service in 1980. It is fitted with a 120mm smoothbore main gun, which its calibre length is 44 and therefore is the same size as the L44 used on the Leopard 2 A4/A5 & M1 Abrams and able to match its firepower. Thank you very much for this detailed post! Trials of the Arjun Mk.2 began in 2012. But that's only part of the story: first of all, the Arjun's weight and size limits the places where it can be effectively operated in India; therefore that's kind of the best case scenario for the Arjun. Also the T72SK used as basis for the Karrar, has been supplemented by some novelties (which is exactly what was meant by "things lifted from an Abrams") like the turret reorganization to accomodate Turms day/night channel sights. (they bought Russian-made "Mango" APFSDS ammunition). However the original MBT failed to impress the Army and improvements were required in order to make it combat-worthy. What can be said however and that will sum up how messed up the Arjun was, is the attempt to reuse the initial turret on a T-72 hull and call it Tank-EX. with all due respects sir,i disagree with yor statements regarding the arjun…. HESH is the only reason why they decided to develop their own 120 mm gun. 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The name is from the legendary sword of Ali, the first Shiite Imam. But despite its generous dimensions, the first Zulfiqar 1 was rated for 36 tonnes with a 780 hp diesel engine. ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%}.isNotInButtons2020 ._33axOHPa8DzNnTmwzen-wO{font-size:14px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:32px;text-transform:uppercase} A new Panther was needed, and this time it would be based on the United States’ serving Main Battle Tank (MBT), the M1 Abrams. An M1 Abrams tank has NEVER been destroyed by an enemy tank. Production of Mk-1A will include rubberisation of assembly road wheels. In the Leopard 2, there is a thick block of composite armor behind it - on the Arjun, there is no armor block compensating for the space taken away by the gunner's sight. The Arjun should've never been made, given that it exceeded its original buget by more than 20 times! TankPorn is for all things Battle Tanks, Armored Fighting Vehicles, Armored Cars, Self-Propelled Guns and Support Vehicles affiliated. The new Arjun Mk.2 has improved protection, firepower and mobility over it's predecessor. There are Variants, Arjun Mk-II. Puzzling for world experts as it looks like much as the M1 Abrams, the Zulfiqar is made of bits of technology from the Soviet T-72 and American M48 and M60 tanks. A/C Included but not guaranteed after 95F! Main armament: 120 mm rifled gun: 2A46M 125 mm smoothbore gun with 43 rounds (T-90) Engine: MTU 838 Ka 501 1400 hp: 950 hp (736 kW) for V-92S2 12-cyl. Same logic the UK keeps HESH. The Chinese would also sell tanks to India. 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Developed in the 1970s, the Abrams main battle tank has been the mainstay of the U.S. Army’s armored forces for 35 years. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.361933014be843c79476.css.map*/._2ppRhKEnnVueVHY_G-Ursy{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:22px 0 0;min-height:200px;overflow:hidden;position:relative}._2KLA5wMaJBHg0K2z1q0ci_{margin:0 -7px -8px}._1zdLtEEpuWI_Pnujn1lMF2{bottom:0;position:absolute;right:52px}._3s18OZ_KPHs2Ei416c7Q1l{margin:0 0 22px;position:relative}.LJjFa8EhquYX8xsTnb9n-{filter:grayscale(40%);position:absolute;top:11px}._2Zjw1QfT_iMHH7rfaGsfBs{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background:linear-gradient(180deg,rgba(0,121,211,.24),rgba(0,121,211,.12));border-radius:50%;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;height:25px;-ms-flex-pack:center;justify-content:center;margin:0 auto;width:25px}._2gaJVJ6_j7vwKV945EABN9{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-button);border-radius:50%;height:15px;width:15px;z-index:1} I don't know Iran's Karrar monstrosity might give this a run for it's money. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} So DRDO and Indian Army decided to build a heavy tank that can face M1 Abrams. because looking at it, it doesn't seem to bad when viewing paper statistics and pure visual aesthetic, but the same could be said of the T-80 (at least the early models) or the British Charioteer. The Arjun Mk-1 with a total of 89 improvements decided upon with the Army, is called the Arjun Mk-2. m1 abrams is by U.S and arjun tank is by India arjun weigh 64.5 tons and m1 weigh 67.6 tons arjun can go at mx speed of 72km/h and m1 can go at max speed of 67km/h the range of m1 is 426km and arjun can go 450km m1 have 1500hp engine and arjun have 1400hp engine m1 have power/weight 24.5 hp/t and arjun have power/weight 23.9hp/tonne m1 use 120mm smooth bore gun and arjun use 120mm rifled gun this information is by wikipedia. (Uralvagonzavod) T-90. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Or the German Panther, another top tank.The USA would sell 500 A1 s with spare parts and Tech Personnel. It possesses a more powerful 1,400 hp engine as well as an Israeli-made APS, a new armor package, a remote controlled machine gun on the turret, and better modularity. The tests were rescheduled, but without the T-72. But not every MBT has a large hole in the frontal hull armor, which is used to fill up the fuel tank and fitted with a relatively thin cover plate only. Moreover, engine failures occurred commonly in temperatures averaging 55-60 degrees Celsius. In other words, the Arjun tank can be hit at the turret sides from within the frontal arc (unlike the T-72), but has similar side armor thickness compared to a T-72 (a few dozen mm steel). Certainly improvement is seen… mostly due to copy abilities. It uses exactly two German components: the engine and the transmission. On page 27 is a chart where the frontal turret armor of the M1A1HA is claimed to be equivalent to 800 mm steel armor (RHA). They went with a Western style turret without thick side armor! 20000 Ruble Rebate per unit. The Army is just beginning to receive the first of the latest Abrams upgrade, the System Enhancement Package Version 3 (SEPv3), with … Then there is the hull armor, which incorporates fuel tanks... fuel does provide some additional protection and every tank needs to carry. This makes the timeframe a bit longer than 8 years. As a result the engine lifetime is probably very poor (India has troubles with getting spare parts) and the fuel consumption is tremendous - available sources suggest a range of 200 kilometres with a fuel tank of 1,610 l (Leopard 2A4: 450 km with 1,160 l). The Turms-T affords the same kind of capaility as the M1A1 variant when it comes to sighting and telemetry. It is claimed that during trials this new Indian tank outgunned both the T-72M and T-90. The Abrams isn’t exactly new, but the Army has continuously tweaked the ammunition, armor package, and sensors to keep it up to date. The APFSDS ammo for Arjun can penetrate 300 mm of steel armor at 2km, which is less than a modern 100 mm APFSDS can defeat. Hull and turret of the Arjun Mk.2 were redesigned. Both have an auxiliary power unit so … IMO they build powerful serviceable weapons. The M1 started after the failure of the KPZ-70 which started actually in 1959 as a design. ... to the T-90S, but is significantly inferior to the T-90MS. if the U.S. has the strongest military could we win any war? The sad state of the Arjun is such that India placed an order for 460 T-90MS obr 2016. It is even heavier than the American M1A2 Abrams or British Challenger 2. However the original MBT failed to impress the Army and improvements were required in … Rifled guns already are worse (due to their higher friction), but a rifled gun designed by a country with no experience in making its own guns? The Army’s current main battle tank, the Abrams, is the tank of the future. 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